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Denny Hamlin post race quote...."There was metal two gooves down from the top on the back stretch....if I would have been leading there would have been a caution for sure." I guess Denny has the Stewart bug. Do they issue that with the uniforms at Gibbs Racing? LOL!
Kudos for speaking your mind. Gordo was fast though. Made for an interesting race. Wish it woulda been about 5-10 laps longer. Woulda had another Bush/Craven finish!!!! IF the Hendick powerplant held up....
 

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He's probably right... but who knows? Gordon and his team have made all the right moves this year without having the best car. Congrats to him and to Hamlin on a good run.
 

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What I don't get isn't the car of tomorrow supposed to make the racing closer and not allow one team/driver to dominate? All I hear about is Hendrick this Hendrick that, Gordon and Johnson this and that it's really annoying. Seems like everytime I check nascar.com it has Gordon or Johnson plastered all over it. I don't care about even seeing those two anymore. I thought Nascar was more then a three man sport. (Throwing Jr. into the media mix.)
 

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I think that will happen, more parity, but it seems that two teams got a jump on the COT and it's showing. By next season, I think many more teams will be competitive and winning COT races. To be fair, Hendrick hasn't dominated these races, but they are winning them. Gibbs is dominating these races, but Hendrick's claiming all the wins lol.
 

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Tater is right. The cars are slower, but the racing is still good. The cars are closer together and if it weren't for some bad breaks, we would probably have different winners in all of the COT races. Harvick ran well, Hamlin has run well and Martin and Stewart have run well. It's just that Hendrick has had all the breaks. That is what makes for a Championship team and season. Taking advantage of others bad luck, and so far Gordan and Johnson have done that. There is a lot of racing left....things may change. NASCAR is very cyclical. That's the fun of watching and why they run the races.
 

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I watched then end of yesterdays race and honestly was disappointed. They spent more time fousing on Gordon's lead then actually showing the racing going on. I rather watch mid pack all race because at least they pass back there. Hamlin seemed like he wanted to say a few other select words about the way things are going. Maybe it's just me but I don't think nascar is caring much about it's image now. They only care about the big names of the sport. What will they do when Gordon can't race any longer and Johnson becomes a lonely fool out there?
 

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well not to mention that after Nemechek blew his tire they wait until after all the green flag stops were done before "looking" for debris. you know nothing like letting all the drivers run over all the debris with their new tires. it was plain as day that there was debris everywhere when they showed the replay of his tire going. but that would have made some "top names" go a lap down.

and then at the end when Stremme blew his engine they throw a caution, but when Gilliand blew his engine and there was still 2 laps left with Hamlin catching Gordon quick they dont throw the caution. they both blew the engine at about the same part of the track and was putting out about the same amount of smoke. so why didnt they throw out the caution?

and then they wonder why people complain when the inconsistencies are when Hendricks get the wins.
 

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Didn't Stewart just get all over NASCAR for throwing cautions at the end? playing god and all that? Let the drivers race it out and all that?
Now Hamlin is crying foul because they did exactly what his teamate told them they should do?

Guess he does not like having to race for it, big fan of the debris caution from what I can gather. NASCAR should throw the caution so I can catch up! :Cry:

What is the Gibbs team meetling like before the race? cry if they do, cry if they dont, but whatever we do never accept responsibility for the loss! :rofl:

Hamlin also threw his crew under the bus in that interview, basically blaming them as well. Did not hear them saying that about him a few weeks ago when he was busted speeding on pit row and cost them that race.

What happened to winning as a team and losing as a team? Seems like we do not see Denny on tv anymore unless his is all droppy faced complaining about something that is noone's fault but his and his own team's.
 

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It's all a matter of who figures out the COT first, obviously Hendrick is way ahead of everyone else. I think everyone else is catching up though.
 

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Yup Hendrick hasn't really dominated the COT races they are just there to pick up the pieces. Think about it. Hamlin has Phoenix won till he gets a speeding penalty on pit road, Harvick has Richmond won until he bumps into Ragan on pit road and Hamlin has Darlington won until a pit road mishap. Sure the Hendrick cars have won all 5 races but in reality did they "really" win them?
 

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I think Gibbs is right there with Hendrick, and judging from Harvick a few weeks ago RCR is not far behind either. It is the same as it always was, depends on the track, the timing, who has good luck and who is there at the end.

I just wish everyone would figure out what they want to complain about and get steady with it. Either we are all happy that Stewart complained and NASCAR should let em run, or we are happy the Hamlin complained and NASCAR should throw a caution flag everytime someone thinks there is debris somewhere.

Oh wait, that is the same as it always was also, its only complaining and whining if its the other guy's driver! If it is a driver we like then it is a good legitimate gripe and he is "giving it" to NASCAR ... even if it is exactly the opposite of the other guy we like who "gave it" to them last week! :rofl:

The only question I really have about it, is I wonder if NASCAR would have actually thrown a debris caution with 3 to go if Tony had not lit them up a few weeks ago. Maybe there was something there, maybe not, but with Stewart being so boisterous about the situation there was NO way they were going to throw it unless it was something obvious. Guessing from the fact that nobody said anything until AFTER he had lost, and noone cut a tire down or crashed or anything as a result there could not have been much there.

I just think it is funny that Hamlin keeps finding someone or something to blame other than the guy behind the wheel. Even when it was him speeding, he was sure the NASCAR computer was wrong, he was SURE he was doing the same speed every trip, even though tv showed him pulling away from everyone on tv.
Just funny ... thats all. :splat:
 

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Yup Hendrick hasn't really dominated the COT races they are just there to pick up the pieces. Think about it. Hamlin has Phoenix won till he gets a speeding penalty on pit road, Harvick has Richmond won until he bumps into Ragan on pit road and Hamlin has Darlington won until a pit road mishap. Sure the Hendrick cars have won all 5 races but in reality did they "really" win them?
Oh yeah, they really won them, check it. Every race has guys with bad luck, every race has its "woulda coulda" moments. Hendrick is not up front every week by accident. They are prepared, they are fast, and they are not making the errors other drivers are right now. That is practice, preparation and most importantly...EXECUTION.

When the chase starts, and those Hendrick cars start counting up all these bonus points ... there will be no question who really won them. :D
 

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I'm not saying they aren't up front I'm just saying they aren't the dominate car. They are usually running top 5 but in each of the 5 COT races the winning driver didn't lead the most laps. Stewart at Bristol, Dale Jr at Martinsville, Stewart at Phoenix, Gordon at Richmond and Hamlin at Darlington. Not once did the guy leading the most laps win and only once did a Hendrick driver lead the most. They clearly haven't dominated the races. Sure you could make the case they are running up front but really they have just used a bit of luck each time. Some of the mistakes that Hamlin has made are fixable real easily. I just don't see how people can argue that Hendrick has "dominated the COT races." They just put themselves into position to capitalize when someone ahead of them screws up. Sooner or later the guy in front won't screw up and Hendrick will get beat.
 

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i guess it all depends on how you want to define dominant. dominant to me does not mean they show up with the best car each week. to me it means as a team they have dominated.

I say as a team, in a team sport, their drivers and teams have made the difference, and as a package they have literally been unbeatable. 5 for 5.

Their cars alone may not be the fastest every race, but that is where the team and the driver can make the difference. When others faulter, they have not. other teams know they have to almost be perfect to win, who is to say that is not why they keep messing up ... the pressure ... .the stress ...

I dunno, I don't really care, NASCAR is a results sport and all that matters is the points on the board. I have seen a lot of drivers lose a lot of races by making stupid moves, thinking they are going to make it back up next week, ... only to find that while you were fooling with your lug nuts the other teams actually found their stride and now you are WAAAAY behind. ask Kahne about "as soon as we get it together" .....

anyways, Im out. later guys.
 
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