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No Toyotas are locked in except for Jarrett and his Champions Provisonal.


Top-35 in Owners Points and a guaranteed starting spot at Martinsville Speedway are set:
the following drivers/teams are in the top-35 in owners points:
30) #96-Raines/HOF Racing 404, +73
31) #14-Marlin/Ginn Racing 400, +69
32) #45-Petty/Petty Enterprises 382, +51
33) #88-Rudd/RYR 374, +43
34) #9-Kahne/Evernham 365, +34
35) #70-Sauter/Haas CNC Racing 365, 34 pts ahead of 36th
these teams and drivers must qualify by speed:
36) #4-Burton/Morgan-McClure Motorsports 331, 34 pts behind 35th
37) #22-Blaney/Bill Davis Racing 325, -40
38) #83-Vickers/Team Red Bull 322, -43
39) #44-Jarrett/Michael Waltrip Racing 320 [has 2 champ provisionals left to use], -45
40) #21-Schrader-Wood/ Wood Brothers 320, -45
41) #49-Bliss/BAM Racing 287, -78
42) #15-Menard/DEI 281, -84
43) #10-Riggs/Evernham 265, -100
(3-25-2007)
 

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It's kinda funny that Johnny Sauter missed Bristol and he's still in the top 35, although just barely. Come on Ward! One more solid finish and you're in!
 

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I'm suprised that Ward is just on the outside. He's missed a couple races if I remember right while guys like Blaney and Riggs have been in ever race via 2006 owners points.
 

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Well James Finch (09) and Morgan McClure (4) switched owner's points after California. Mike Wallace finished in the top 5 at Daytona, that's where most of those points comes from. But, because they waited until after California to switch, the 4 team only has 4 attempted races (the 09 did not attempt California). So, in the possibility of a rain out, the 4 team would go home.
 

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Ahh I didn't realize they switched points. I know Mike Wallace was 4th at Daytona cuz I had him on Yahoo Fantasy team! I never heard of them switching points though. That definately helped McClures team as they had probably 150 at least to start with.
 

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They didn't actually switch points, they merged them, which I didn't know you could do. So they had 34 points after Vegas then add the 160 from Mike Wallace in Daytona.
 

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Oh. I didn't think you could merge them mid-season. I know last year Mikey got the points from the 32 team but that moved happened in the off-season.
 

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No, they didn't merge. They switched. The 09 is now the 4. But, since Ward didn't qualify for the first two races, the 09 doesn't have many points (note: you get points for attempting races). They actually did switch. Notice that James Finch is listed as the owner of the No. 4 now and MMM is listed as the owner as the 09
 

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No, they didn't merge. They switched. The 09 is now the 4. But, since Ward didn't qualify for the first two races, the 09 doesn't have many points (note: you get points for attempting races). They actually did switch. Notice that James Finch is listed as the owner of the No. 4 now and MMM is listed as the owner as the 09
This explains it:
NOTE on Owners Points: from what I am told the #109 team of James Finch/Phoenix Racing and the #4 team of Larry McClure/Morgan McClure Motorsports have 'switched' car numbers with Finch now listed as the #4 owner, combing the #109's Daytona points [160] with the #4 points at Las Vegas [34] for a total of 194 and moving up to 38th on the Owners Points list. Been told NASCAR has approved this move. Why would the #4 team do this? Race attempts do not matter if a team is in the top 35 of the owners points, so if the #4 can get in the next two races and get in the top-35 they will be guaranteed a starting spot if the team can stay in the top 35.
My 'understanding' of the rules, is that since the #4 is now listed with only 2 race attempts, the team would not get in the race in the case qualifying is cancelled [rain etc] as there are many teams already with three who would get in first. That is how the rule is written, but NASCAR could change that..so who knows.(3-14-2007)

They swiched numbers but they combined points.
 

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taterracing said:
No, they didn't merge. They switched. The 09 is now the 4. But, since Ward didn't qualify for the first two races, the 09 doesn't have many points (note: you get points for attempting races). They actually did switch. Notice that James Finch is listed as the owner of the No. 4 now and MMM is listed as the owner as the 09
This explains it:
NOTE on Owners Points: from what I am told the #109 team of James Finch/Phoenix Racing and the #4 team of Larry McClure/Morgan McClure Motorsports have 'switched' car numbers with Finch now listed as the #4 owner, combing the #109's Daytona points [160] with the #4 points at Las Vegas [34] for a total of 194 and moving up to 38th on the Owners Points list. Been told NASCAR has approved this move. Why would the #4 team do this? Race attempts do not matter if a team is in the top 35 of the owners points, so if the #4 can get in the next two races and get in the top-35 they will be guaranteed a starting spot if the team can stay in the top 35.
My 'understanding' of the rules, is that since the #4 is now listed with only 2 race attempts, the team would not get in the race in the case qualifying is cancelled [rain etc] as there are many teams already with three who would get in first. That is how the rule is written, but NASCAR could change that..so who knows.(3-14-2007)

They swiched numbers but they combined points.
lol, close enough. Just drop the words 'merged' and 'combined.' There's no such thing in NASCAR. What ever points the No. 4 team accumulated at Daytona and California are now with the 09. The points the 09 got at Daytona are with the 4.
 

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Alot of good guys out of the top 35 in points going into Martinsville. But I look for there to be even more big names back there after next weekend. Guess we will just have to wait and see.
 

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I'm surprised Riggs is out of the top 35 really. Its a good thing he is a pretty strong qualifyer.
 

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2 of Evernham's drivers way down there. One just inside and one on the outside. Maybe they should combine their points and both ride in the same car. Will NASCAR allow that to happen? Hmmmmmm
 

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2 of Evernham's drivers way down there. One just inside and one on the outside. Maybe they should combine their points and both ride in the same car. Will NASCAR allow that to happen? Hmmmmmm
If they did at least Kasey would be guarnateed to race, but then again he is normally a great qualifier, so combine it to Riggs!!! :rofl:
 
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